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Lord Derby apple


Lord Derby is a traditional large English cooking apple, ripening in the mid-season - early September.  It remains a popular apple variety in English gardens, and is a good choice if you are looking for an apple tree for the garden as an alternative to Bramley which can be used in the period from September to November.

Lord Derby is quite easy to identify, on account of its large size, bright green colours and ribbed shape.  The Victorian author Hogg rates it as an "excellent culinary apple".  The flavour is nicely acidic if picked young, but milder if picked when fully ripe (at which point the skin develops a more yellow hue).  Like many Victorian cooking apples, it has naturally good disease resistance.



Lord Derby identification photos

UK National Fruit Collection
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Visitor reviews

  • 21 Sep 2016  Roy James,  BRIDGEND, WALES, United Kingdom
    I've had a Lord Derby apple from a pup!!!!! Don't agree with the comments on taste. It is very good when baked, and used for apple tart. Because of the short keeping time I usually core peel chop and freeze it. However, I find that keeping some in the refrigerator helps to keep it longer.
  • 16 Sep 2016  Chris,  DORSET, United States
    We inherited a large old tree 10 years ago which was identified as Lord Derby at an apple day in Cumbria. After 3 years of professional pruning it has proved well worth saving. Here it breaks down well on cooking and is very good in cakes. Brown rot and mice mean it only lasts until January. Mice leave alone any wrapped in news paper.
  • 21 Oct 2012  Martin Appleby,  CARMARTHENSHIRE, United Kingdom
    A large old apple tree (70 to 80 years or more)in our garden has been identified at the Apple Day festival at the National Botanic Gardens of Wales as the variety 'Lord Derby'. It does cook very well and as long as plentty of sugar is added has good flavour when cooked. It also crops very well, and 2011 was an exceptionally bumper year, but even in this wet year we have had a reasoanble crop it usually stores for 3 to 4 months in the garden shed provided the mice don't cause too much damage. It does soon turn yellow but still seems OK when stewed.
  • 27 Nov 2011  Chris Kettlety,  CHESHIRE, United Kingdom
    I think this is the variety I have and I agree that it is quite a bland taste and doesn't fall well when cooked. However, it is a prolific fruiter and I have trained it to keep it compact. Going to use this year's crop with the addition of some Bramleys to make cider.
  • 13 Nov 2010  Geoff Ramshaw,  GLOS., United Kingdom
    We inherited an apple that has been identified as Lord Derby and is certainly large and green, turnng yellowish when ripe. Unfortunately, we find it virtually tasteless whether raw or cooked, and it does not form any kind of puree when cooked, but remains in slices. Any suggestions?

Tree register

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Spring blossom records for this variety

2012 season

  • 20th May  2012  - tree owned by Nickkk in Oldham, United Kingdom

2011 season

  • 26th May  2011  - tree owned by Mrs Di in , United Kingdom
  • May  2011  - tree owned by Philip in Andover, United Kingdom

2010 season

  • 13th May  2010  - tree owned by Clifford in Doncaster, United Kingdom

2009 season

  • 4th April  2009  - tree owned by Harry in Cobham, United Kingdom

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Harvest records for this variety

2016 season

  • 3rd week October  2016  - tree owned by Nigel in Ryton Dorrington Shrewsbury, United Kingdom

2015 season

  • 2nd week October  2015  - tree owned by Peter in Hexham, United Kingdom

2014 season

  • 2nd week September  2014  - tree owned by Ben in Peterborough, United Kingdom

2011 season

  • 2nd week November  2011  - tree owned by Mrs Di in , United Kingdom
  • 1st week November  2011  - tree owned by Philip in Andover, United Kingdom
  • 4th week August  2011  - tree owned by Anthony in Cambridge, United Kingdom

2010 season

  • 1st week October  2010  - tree owned by Kevin in Duleek, Ireland

2009 season

  • 2nd week September  2009  - tree owned by Harry in Cobham, United Kingdom

Origins

  • Species: Malus domestica
  • Originates from: Cheshire, United Kingdom
  • Introduced: 19th century
  • Orange Pippin Cultivar ID: 1579
  • UK National Fruit Collection accession: 1978-300

Identification

  • Fruit colour: Green
  • Bultitude apple group: 1. Green, smooth, no russet, acidic, culinary

Using

  • Uses: Cooking
  • Uses: Juice
  • Cooking result: Textured puree
  • Flavour quality: Good
  • Flavour style: Sharper
  • Harvest period: Mid season
  • Use / keeping: 1-2 months

Growing

  • Cropping: Heavy
  • Flowering group: 4
  • Fertility: Self-sterile
  • Ploidy: Diploid
  • Vigour: Slightly large
  • Gardening skill: Very easy
  • General disease resistance: Good

Climate

  • Climate suitability: Temperate climates
  • Blossom frost-resistance: Good resistance
  • Blossom frost-resistance: Good resistance

Parents and other ancestors of this variety


Diseases

  • Scab  - Very resistant
  • Brown rot  Monilinia fructigena  - Very susceptible


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References

  • Fruit Expert
    Author: Hessayon


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