Sunset apple

Malus domestica

Popular garden alternative to Cox, easier to grow, and has a similar flavour albeit lacking some of the depth.

Sunset is a popular Cox-style apple, widely recommended as an alternative to Cox's Orange Pippin as it is much easier to grow.  The parentage is not known but it is almost certainly a seedling of Cox.  Disease resistance is far better, and cropping is good.  It is also self-fertile, which is fairly unusual in apples and means it can be grown without the usual requirement for a pollination partner.

Like Cox it is a mid-season variety, ripening slightly ahead of Cox - so expect to pick around mid-September in northern Europe.  Sunset does not keep especially well, and is best stored in a refrigerator, where it will last a month or so.

The main horticultural problem is that the fruit tends to be small, but this is easily corrected by thinning the fruitlets as the develop in May and June.

Visually Sunset is quite close to Cox's Orange Pippin, but often with a slightly more yellow hue to the characteristic orange flush.

Our main concern with Sunset is that the flavour can be very variable.  There is no doubt that in principle it is quite close to Cox, with similar aromatic qualities and good sweetness.  However whilst it invariably crops well in both good and bad seasons, the flavour can be very disappointing in a poor year - although even then it remains a crisp and sweet apple.  We have also had reports that flavour varies quite noticeably between M9 and MM106 rootstocks (with M9 producing a better flavour).  We therefore think its popular billing as a "Cox substitute" should be taken with caution.

However, taking it purely on its own merits, Sunset is undoubtedly a good apple for the northern European gardener, crisp, sweet-flavoured, reliable cropping, easy to grow ... and in a good year the promise of some of the aromatic flavours of Cox too.

Last updated 10 Jun 2010 by Orange Pippin.

Summary

  • Parentage: Cox's Orange Pippin
  • Origin: England, United Kingdom
  • Introduced: 1918
  • Orange Pippin Cultivar ID: 105900

Identification

  • Bultitude apple group: 7. Flushed / striped, some russeting, sweet

Using

  • Good for eating fresh
  • Flavour quality: Good
  • Flavour style: Aromatic
  • Use / keeping: 2-3 weeks

Growing

  • Flowering group: 3
  • Fertility: Self-sterile
  • Vigour: Average growth
  • Gardening skill: Easy

Climate

  • Suitable for temperate climates
  • Suitable for N. England?: Yes

Other qualities

  • RHS Award of Garden Merit 1993

Mature tree heights for this variety (approximate)

Rootstock Soil quality
Poor Below average Average Above average Very good
P22 2.1 ft
0.6 m
2.6 ft
0.8 m
3.2 ft
1.0 m
3.7 ft
1.1 m
4.2 ft
1.3 m
M27 2.8 ft
0.9 m
3.5 ft
1.1 m
4.2 ft
1.3 m
4.9 ft
1.5 m
5.6 ft
1.7 m
M9 4.2 ft
1.3 m
5.3 ft
1.6 m
6.3 ft
1.9 m
7.4 ft
2.3 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
Bud.9 4.2 ft
1.3 m
5.3 ft
1.6 m
6.3 ft
1.9 m
7.4 ft
2.3 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
Geneva 16 4.2 ft
1.3 m
5.3 ft
1.6 m
6.3 ft
1.9 m
7.4 ft
2.3 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
Geneva 11 4.9 ft
1.5 m
6.1 ft
1.9 m
7.4 ft
2.3 m
8.6 ft
2.6 m
9.8 ft
3.0 m
M26 5.6 ft
1.7 m
7.0 ft
2.1 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
9.8 ft
3.0 m
11.2 ft
3.4 m
Geneva 30 5.6 ft
1.7 m
7.0 ft
2.1 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
9.8 ft
3.0 m
11.2 ft
3.4 m
MM102 5.6 ft
1.7 m
7.0 ft
2.1 m
8.4 ft
2.6 m
9.8 ft
3.0 m
11.2 ft
3.4 m
M7 6.3 ft
1.9 m
7.9 ft
2.4 m
9.5 ft
2.9 m
11.0 ft
3.4 m
12.6 ft
3.9 m
M116 6.3 ft
1.9 m
7.9 ft
2.4 m
9.5 ft
2.9 m
11.0 ft
3.4 m
12.6 ft
3.9 m
MM106 7.0 ft
2.1 m
8.8 ft
2.7 m
10.5 ft
3.2 m
12.3 ft
3.8 m
14.0 ft
4.3 m
MM111 8.4 ft
2.6 m
10.5 ft
3.2 m
12.6 ft
3.9 m
14.7 ft
4.5 m
16.8 ft
5.2 m
Bud.118 9.8 ft
3.0 m
12.3 ft
3.8 m
14.7 ft
4.5 m
17.2 ft
5.3 m
19.6 ft
6.0 m
M25 11.2 ft
3.4 m
14.0 ft
4.3 m
16.8 ft
5.2 m
19.6 ft
6.0 m
22.4 ft
6.9 m
From an idea by N. Buck - more details.

Relationships to other varieties

Offspring of this variety:

  • Pixie (distant descendant)

Parents and other ancestors of this variety:

Visitor comments

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13 Oct 2009 Keith FreemanEAST DEVON, United Kingdom
I have this apple and a Sturmer Pippen. Sunset is the better taste and croper of the two. Both of them make very good juice and cider, so I am not too bothered about the size.

04 Oct 2008 Andrew C RossHAMPSHIRE, United Kingdom
Tasted Sunset at an apple tasting event at Damerham near Fordingbridge produced at Fruitwise Durley and thought that they were the best tasting of ten or so available.Firm, sweet, juicy and lovely flavour. Prefered it to the following; Kidds Orange Red, Spartan, Orleans Rreinette, Pitmaston Pineapple, Lord Lambourne, Egremont Russet, Ribston pppin, Ellison's Orange, and James Grieve.

01 Oct 2008 Jim JacksonWAKEFIELD, United Kingdom
Marian Fitch may have a similarly named apple "Suntan". It is a later variety (late Oct-Nov), and has a good deep red shading when ripe.

24 Sep 2008 LynneENGLAND, United Kingdom
Hello i have sunset apples and i was wondering when to pick them?

03 Jun 2008 Marian FitchSOMERSET, United Kingdom
Reading the comments I wonder if my 'Sunset' is miss named. It never drops, always has to be picked and stays well on the tree. Large fruit with much red on it. Sweet and crisp, a lovely flavour.

02 Jun 2008 Terry MooreMIDLAND MICHIGAN, United States
The apple is small, but is the most beautiful orange-red of any apple I have ever seen and I have seen almost 700 varieties..

13 Nov 2007 Denise FletcherBRIDPORT WEST DORSET, United Kingdom
I have this apple and it doesnt EVER fruit after October so dont understand that summary on this site of its fruiting times! I love its crisp sharp taste, even the tiny ones taste lovely!

11 Oct 2007 Dan KissaneCO KERRY., Ireland
Picking now (11th Oct); superb apple - sweet, crisp, aromatic, very juicy. Small if not thinned, but this year I thinned early to one apple per truss and results are great.

05 Oct 2007 A. BestWEST DORSET, United Kingdom
Always crops well. A strong apple taste and very sweet when fully ripe. Crisp flesh and not sharp. Tends to drop. Less disease problems than the Cox. Texture becomes soft if kept.

24 Sep 2007 M.D.HaywardEX15, United States
Very heavy crop. Interesting and complicated flavours. Far too sharp for a dessert apple. However, the whole family detests the Cox. Will juice them this year as a last resort. Expect to rip it out. Rgds. Malcolm

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