Margil apple
A very old variety, with a good flavour.
Margil is amongst the oldest of dessert apple varieties grown in England. Robert Hogg, writing in his book 'The Fruit Manual' in 1884 claims that Margil is:
"One of the finest dessert apples, a rival of the Ribston Pippin, excelling it in juiciness, and being of a better size for dessert."
Whilst its origins are unknown Hogg reports evidence of cultivation at Brompton Park Nursery in the 1750s. He also suggests that the variety is French in origin, partly from its name, and partly because one of the partners in the Brompton Park Nursery had previously worked in the gardens at Versailles. This makes Margil one of a select band of apple varieties with a documented history going back more than 250 years.
Margil's contemporaries include Court Pendu Plat, Ashmeads Kernel, and Ribston Pippin. These are all varieties with strong appley flavours, but with the exception of Ribston Pippin, which had some commercial success in the first half of the 19th century, they have all remained minor varieties and relatively unknown. Court Pendu Plat and Ribston Pippin both seem to have come from France or the Continent, like Margil.
To apple lovers of the 21st century, Margil is in many ways the most accessible of these 18th century varieties, with more delicacy than Ribston Pippin and a less provocative flavour than Court Pendu Plat or Ashmeads Kernel. It is a fairly small apple, with an attractive flushed appearance, and a strong, clean, well-balanced flavour which puts it very much in the mainstream of modern Cox-style apples. Only the tendency to russetting might be held against it. Although separated by at least 200 years, Margil is quite similar in flavour to Braeburn, and has no trouble holding its own against modern varieties.
Incidentally, notwithstanding the Cox-like characteristics, there is no known link with Cox's Orange Pippin - which in any case is widely believed to be a seedling of Ribston Pippin. However, trying Margil and Cox side by side, the flattened shape, the flushed russet tones, and the tremendous depth of flavour all suggest that somewhere there must be a common ancestor.
Although it has many excellent characteristics, Margil has faded from view, and is now almost impossible to obtain. However the variety is still available from specialist apple tree nurseries, so this is the best way to experience Margil - and to try a taste straight from the 18th century.
Summary
- Species: Malus domestica
- Parentage: Unknown
- Origin: France
- Introduced: 1750s
- Orange Pippin Cultivar ID: 114500
Identification
- Bultitude apple group: 7. Flushed / striped, some russeting, sweet
Using
- Good for eating fresh
- Flavour quality: Very good
- Flavour style: Aromatic
- Ripening period: Late season
Growing
- Cropping: Good
- Flowering period: Mid season
- Flowering group: 3
- Fertility: Self-sterile
- Triploid: No
- Vigour: Average growth
- Gardening skill: Average
- General disease resistance: Average
Climate
- Suitable for temperate climates
Disease resistance
- Scab - Some resistance
- Bacterial canker Pseudomonas syringae - Some susceptibility
See also:
- Ribston Pippin - Margil and Ribston Pippin both originate from England in the mid 18th century but with strong links to France.
Margil identification photos from official fruit collections
Margil identification photos from website visitors
Fruit tree register
Do you have a tree of this variety in your garden or orchard? If so please register the details here and contribute to our international register of fruit trees.
The following Margil trees have been registered - click the name to view more details of each tree.
You can also view these trees on a map.
United States
- Axel Kratel in Santa Cruz, California
- Tenzicut in Canby, Oregon
United Kingdom
- Alan Reid in NEWPORT-ON-TAY, Fife
- Graham Hinchliffe in EASTBOURNE, EAST SUSSEX
- Paul Collins in Warminster, WILTSHIRE
Mature heights for Margil trees
This table shows the likely mature height for a Margil tree taking into account the vigor of the variety, the rootstock, and soil conditions.
| Rootstock | Soil quality | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Poor | Below average | Average | Above average | Very good | |
| P22 | 2.5 ft 0.8 m |
3.1 ft 0.9 m |
3.7 ft 1.1 m |
4.3 ft 1.3 m |
4.9 ft 1.5 m |
| M27 | 2.8 ft 0.9 m |
3.5 ft 1.1 m |
4.2 ft 1.3 m |
4.9 ft 1.5 m |
5.6 ft 1.7 m |
| M9 | 4.2 ft 1.3 m |
5.3 ft 1.6 m |
6.3 ft 1.9 m |
7.4 ft 2.3 m |
8.4 ft 2.6 m |
| Bud.9 | 4.2 ft 1.3 m |
5.3 ft 1.6 m |
6.3 ft 1.9 m |
7.4 ft 2.3 m |
8.4 ft 2.6 m |
| Geneva 16 | 4.2 ft 1.3 m |
5.3 ft 1.6 m |
6.3 ft 1.9 m |
7.4 ft 2.3 m |
8.4 ft 2.6 m |
| Geneva 11 | 4.9 ft 1.5 m |
6.1 ft 1.9 m |
7.4 ft 2.3 m |
8.6 ft 2.6 m |
9.8 ft 3.0 m |
| M26 | 5.3 ft 1.6 m |
6.6 ft 2.0 m |
7.9 ft 2.4 m |
9.2 ft 2.8 m |
10.5 ft 3.2 m |
| Geneva 30 | 5.6 ft 1.7 m |
7.0 ft 2.1 m |
8.4 ft 2.6 m |
9.8 ft 3.0 m |
11.2 ft 3.4 m |
| MM102 | 5.6 ft 1.7 m |
7.0 ft 2.1 m |
8.4 ft 2.6 m |
9.8 ft 3.0 m |
11.2 ft 3.4 m |
| M7 | 6.3 ft 1.9 m |
7.9 ft 2.4 m |
9.5 ft 2.9 m |
11.0 ft 3.4 m |
12.6 ft 3.9 m |
| M116 | 6.3 ft 1.9 m |
7.9 ft 2.4 m |
9.5 ft 2.9 m |
11.0 ft 3.4 m |
12.6 ft 3.9 m |
| MM106 | 7.0 ft 2.1 m |
8.8 ft 2.7 m |
10.5 ft 3.2 m |
12.3 ft 3.8 m |
14.0 ft 4.3 m |
| MM111 | 8.4 ft 2.6 m |
10.5 ft 3.2 m |
12.6 ft 3.9 m |
14.7 ft 4.5 m |
16.8 ft 5.2 m |
| Bud.118 | 9.1 ft 2.8 m |
11.4 ft 3.5 m |
13.7 ft 4.2 m |
15.9 ft 4.9 m |
18.2 ft 5.6 m |
| M25 | 10.5 ft 3.2 m |
13.1 ft 4.0 m |
15.8 ft 4.8 m |
18.4 ft 5.6 m |
21.0 ft 6.4 m |
From an idea by N. Buck - more details.
Where to buy apple trees
The following fruit tree nurseries offer Margil apple trees for sale:
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Orange Pippin Fruit Trees (USA)
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Cummins Nursery
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Keepers Nursery
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Where to buy apples
The following orchards and suppliers offer Margil apples for sale. map >
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Mainemap >
- Lamb Abbey Orchards, Union
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New Yorkmap >
- Black Diamond Farm, Trumansburg
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British Columbiamap >
- Starry Night Meadows Farm, Mayne Island
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